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Mac laptops
Mike B.
2013-06-07 21:05:51 UTC
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Today, after more than a year asking random people with Macs, I came across
someone who not only knows what the command line is, but uses it.

I have asked well over one hundred people over the past year. Not one
until now had any idea they had a terminal program, let alone how to open
it. Wow. Just wow.


Of course, this guy programs web sites.
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Robert Citek
2013-06-07 21:10:56 UTC
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Methinks, you're asking the wrong people. ;)

Might want to ask one of the three guys in the front row at this Rails
conference:

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Regards,
- Robert
Post by Mike B.
Today, after more than a year asking random people with Macs, I came across
someone who not only knows what the command line is, but uses it.
I have asked well over one hundred people over the past year. Not one until
now had any idea they had a terminal program, let alone how to open it.
Wow. Just wow.
Of course, this guy programs web sites.
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Scott Granneman
2013-06-07 22:13:41 UTC
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You don�t NEED to use a command line with a Mac. But it�s there if you want it.

I have one open 100% of the time I�m using my Mac. But I�m unusual.

I don�t see what�s so astonishing about your experience.

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Post by Robert Citek
Methinks, you're asking the wrong people. ;)
Might want to ask one of the three guys in the front row at this Rails
http://cdn.harmonyapp.com/assets/518d24647a507234e000157b/sponsors.jpg
Regards,
- Robert
Post by Mike B.
Today, after more than a year asking random people with Macs, I came across
someone who not only knows what the command line is, but uses it.
I have asked well over one hundred people over the past year. Not one until
now had any idea they had a terminal program, let alone how to open it.
Wow. Just wow.
Of course, this guy programs web sites.
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Don Ellis
2013-06-07 22:28:25 UTC
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You didn't ask me, did you? (or Scott, or Robert)

I was using a Mac to access Unix command lines on a project in 1987. In
1992 I used a Mac command line product (Programmers Workbench?) to issue
commands concurrently in MacOS (pre-X), Unix, and Windows. In 1995, I
installed a Unix(r) command line interface in MacOS 8. I had been waiting
for a CLI on the Mac for years, and finally had one with Mach Ten (the
company was assimilated when OSX came out).

Yes, I know you don't need a CLI, but I like having one and the things I
can do with it. I also appreciate the Commando interface used in Workbench
and AUX, which expands the CLI into a dialog box when a hot key is pressed.
Would be nice if the NeXT crew had seen that when they came aboard.

--Don Ellis
You don’t NEED to use a command line with a Mac. But it’s there if you
want it.
I have one open 100% of the time I’m using my Mac. But I’m unusual.
I don’t see what’s so astonishing about your experience.
Scott
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Post by Robert Citek
Methinks, you're asking the wrong people. ;)
Might want to ask one of the three guys in the front row at this Rails
http://cdn.harmonyapp.com/assets/518d24647a507234e000157b/sponsors.jpg
Regards,
- Robert
Post by Mike B.
Today, after more than a year asking random people with Macs, I came
across
Post by Robert Citek
Post by Mike B.
someone who not only knows what the command line is, but uses it.
I have asked well over one hundred people over the past year. Not one
until
Post by Robert Citek
Post by Mike B.
now had any idea they had a terminal program, let alone how to open it.
Wow. Just wow.
Of course, this guy programs web sites.
...
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Mike B.
2013-06-08 20:44:45 UTC
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Of course not. I ask in the wild, BreadCo., McDs, Burger King, Malls, etc.
What surprises me is that most Windows users I've asked are aware of the
terminal program even if they've never used it But Mac users, on average,
don't even know they have one.
Post by Don Ellis
You didn't ask me, did you? (or Scott, or Robert)
I was using a Mac to access Unix command lines on a project in 1987. In
1992 I used a Mac command line product (Programmers Workbench?) to issue
commands concurrently in MacOS (pre-X), Unix, and Windows. In 1995, I
installed a Unix(r) command line interface in MacOS 8. I had been waiting
for a CLI on the Mac for years, and finally had one with Mach Ten (the
company was assimilated when OSX came out).
Yes, I know you don't need a CLI, but I like having one and the things I
can do with it. I also appreciate the Commando interface used in Workbench
and AUX, which expands the CLI into a dialog box when a hot key is pressed.
Would be nice if the NeXT crew had seen that when they came aboard.
--Don Ellis
You don’t NEED to use a command line with a Mac. But it’s there if you
want it.
I have one open 100% of the time I’m using my Mac. But I’m unusual.
I don’t see what’s so astonishing about your experience.
Scott
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http://www.granneman.com/books
“All great truths begin as blasphemies.”
---George Bernard Shaw
Post by Robert Citek
Methinks, you're asking the wrong people. ;)
Might want to ask one of the three guys in the front row at this Rails
http://cdn.harmonyapp.com/assets/518d24647a507234e000157b/sponsors.jpg
Regards,
- Robert
Post by Mike B.
Today, after more than a year asking random people with Macs, I came
across
Post by Robert Citek
Post by Mike B.
someone who not only knows what the command line is, but uses it.
I have asked well over one hundred people over the past year. Not one
until
Post by Robert Citek
Post by Mike B.
now had any idea they had a terminal program, let alone how to open it.
Wow. Just wow.
Of course, this guy programs web sites.
...
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